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Elizabeth Soto asked 03 Nov 11

"Se" & "Ne"

What do they mean in a sentence. In any sentence. Need examples please. :)

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Salvatore Saja answered 03 Nov 11

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Ne
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It has the function of expressions like

"Di" +
Personal pronoun / Demonstrative pronoun / Demonstrative adjective

"Da" +
Personal pronoun / Demonstrative pronoun / Demonstrative adjective

"Per" +
Personal pronoun / Demonstrative pronoun / Demonstrative adjective

i.e.:

"Quanti cani ci sono?"
[ How may dogs are there? ]

"Ce ne sono 4." => "Ci sono 4 *di essi*."
[ There are 4 of them ]

i.e.:

"Quei leoni sono pericolosi!"
[ Those lions are dangerous! ]

"Ne stia alla larga!" => "Stia lontana *da essi*!"

[ Stay away from them! ]

i.e.:

"Ti verrò a trovare, se ne avrò tempo." => "Ti verrò a trovare, se avrò tempo *per (fare) questo*."

[ I'll come and see you, if I have time ]

i.e.:

"Che situazione... Ne parlano tutti." => "Che situazione... Parlano tutti di questa (cosa)."

What a situation... Everybody speaks *about this (thing)*.

i.e.:

"Me ne vado, adesso." => "Vado via da qui, adesso"

I'm leaving now *from here*.

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As for "Se", you mean the "Se" you can fin in expressions like "se ne andarono"?

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Salvatore Saja answered 03 Nov 11

I mean "find", not "fin". :P

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Elizabeth Soto answered 04 Nov 11

Sì e grazie dell'aiuto.. :)

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Salvatore Saja answered 04 Nov 11

Before I start, a little additon to "Ne".

Ne = "Di" / "Da" + Adverbs of place

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"Se ne" and other forms
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"Ora, me ne vado" = "Ora, vado via da qui"
"Ora, te ne vai" = "Ora, vai via da qui"
"Ora, se ne va" = "Ora, va via da qui"
"Ora, ce ne andiamo" = "Ora, andiamo via da qui"
"Ora, ve ne andate" = "Ora, andate via da qui"
"Ora, se ne vanno" = "Ora, vanno via da qui"

"Me ne", "se ne" and so on are called "particelle pronominali raggruppate" [ grouped pronoun particles ].
They're used in pleonastic sense [ redundant ], to intensify the meaning.

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Elizabeth Soto answered 04 Nov 11

grazie Sal :)

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Salvatore Saja answered 04 Nov 11

Di nulla, Eli ^_^

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