Possessive pronouns

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Possessive Pronouns / Adjectives
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The rows represent the "owner".
The columns represent the "owned thing".

Mio / Mia / Miei /Mie
Tuo / Tua / Tuoi / Tue
Suo / Sua / Suoi / Sue
Nostro / Nostra / Nostri / Nostre
Vostro / Vostra / Vostri / Vostre
Loro

They are almost always preceded by articles.

i.e.

"That's ours" [ speaking about a "house" ]

The owner is "Noi" and the owned thing is "House", a feminine, singular thing.

So the correct possessive pronoun is in the 4th row & 2nd column: "Nostra"

"Quella è la nostra"

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Yes, in English "Indirect object pronouns" [ Tonic or Strong form ] refer to "Prepositional Pronouns".

As for the "Indirect object pronouns" [ Atonic or Weak form ] not only they are placed after the verb, but the are merged with it.

i.e.:

>>> "Do me a favour"

# IOP [ Atonic form ]

"Fammi un favore"

Fammi = " Fa' " [ Imperative mood of "Fare" ] + "Mi"

# IOP [ Tonic form ] OR Prepositional Pronouns

"Fa' un favore a me"

i.e.:

>>> "Give us some more time"

# IOP [ Atonic form ]

"Dacci un po' più di tempo"

Dacci = " Da' " [ Imperative mood of "Dare" ] + "Ci"

# IOP [ Tonic form ] OR Prepositional Pronouns

"Da a noi un po' più di tempo"

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As for IOP [ Atonic or Weak form ] the correct 3rd person plural form is "Loro", but it's less and less used.

"Gli", used as third person singular IOP [ Atonic or Weak form ], is technically wrong, but it's commonly accepted especially in spoken language, except in schools.

This happens because of the particular way "Loro" is used in IOP [ Atonic or Weak form ].

i.e.:

>>> "Do me a favour" / "Do them a favour"

# IOP [ Atonic or Weak form ]

"Fammi un favore" / "Fa' loro un favore"

# IOP [ Tonic or Strong form ] OR Prepositional Pronouns

"Fa' un favore a me" / "Fa' un favore a loro"

Can you notice the difference in IOP [ Atonic or Weak form ]?

When you use "Loro", the sentence is less fluent, so we often use "Gli" instead, in everyday speech.

i.e.:

>>> "Do them a favour"

# IOP [ Atonic or Weak form ]

"Fagli un favore"

# IOP [ Tonic or Strong form ] OR Prepositional Pronouns

"Fa' un favore a loro"

Hope this helps. ^^

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Ok I think I understand this but if I have anymore questions i'll be back... :))

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And I'll be here to answer to all of your questions. ;-)

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grazie amico mio... :)

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Prego, Eli. :)

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Hello Sal I am so confused. Are the "possessive pronouns" "direct object pronouns" and "indirect object pronouns" all the same?

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"Possessive pronouns" are neither direct object pronouns nor indirect object pronouns.

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Direct object pronouns
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1st singular - Mi
2nd singular - Ti [ Informal ] / La [ Formal ]
3rd singular - Lo [ Masculine ] / La [ Feminine ]
1st plural - Ci
2nd plural - Vi
3rd plural - Li [ Masculine ] / Le [ Feminine ]

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Indirect object pronouns
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1st singular - Mi
2nd singular - Ti [ Informal ] / Le [ Formal ]
3rd singular - Gli [ Masculine ] / Le [ Feminine ]
1st plural - Ci
2nd plural - Vi
3rd plural - Loro / Gli [ Non standard, but commonly accepted form ]

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The indirect object pronouns I've written down are in atonic or weak form.

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Indirect object pronouns [ Tonic or Strong form ]
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1st singular - Me
2nd singular - Te [ Informal ]
3rd singular - Lui [ Masculine ] / Lei [ Feminine ]
1st plural - Noi
2nd plural - Voi
3rd plural - Loro

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I understand the direct object pronouns but the indirect object is a bit confusing. There seems to be two sets of indirect object pronouns but I think the second set is referred to as Prepositional Pronouns, correct?

Also in terms of what these DOP and IOP mean for the indirect is this correct?

Mi – to/for me
Ti – to/for you (sing. Informal)
Le – to/for you (formal)
Gli – to /for him/it (masc. informal)
Le – to/for her/it (fem. informal)
ci – to us/for us (plural)
vi – to you/for you (plural)
gli – to them/for them (plural)
loro (to them/for them) (plural) placed after the verb when used.

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ok grazie millie :)

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Di nulla ^^

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Hello Sal Can you tell me the difference between "gli" and "loro" indirect object pronoun? It's a little confusing. grazie

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The first 7 are correct, but you don't need an accent above the "i" in mia and mie. Also, for "suo", it can either be his/her, the possessive pronouns agree with the noun that they are modifying. For example, if you're taking about a boy's pen, you would say, "la sua penna", even though the guy is feminine. "sua" agrees with "penna" in this case. Same goes for the feminine-- if you want to say "her book", you say, "il suo libro". "suo" agrees with "libro". Do you see the difference? It's kind of easy to forget at first, but with more practice it will become easier.

Now, for numbers #9 - 12, same thing. "Il nostro libro"= our book. "La nostra penna"= our pen. Possessive adjectives agree with the noun they modify. "Nostro" means our , it is not plural. If you want to say "our pens", it would be "le nostre penne". Or "i nostri libri". Our books.

Il Suo/la Sua, i Suoi/ le Sue = your (formal).

#'s 13 and 14 are wrong- il loro, la loro, i loro, and le loro= their.

Il loro libro= their book.

La loro penna = their pen.

I loro libri= their books.

Le loro penne= their pens.

Examples would be: Il mio libro. La mia penna. I miei amici. Le mie amiche. Il tuo cane. La tua macchina. ...etc. etc.

Does this make sense? Buona fortuna!